http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/ Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:04:50 -0500 hourly 1 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-966 webmaster Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:12:29 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-966 We love a lively debate! Please see my latest comments at http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/. We are closing this thread and continuing it at "Fakes in the Haitian art market - part 2." Thanks for all the great input, we look forward to you continuing this discussion. We love a lively debate! Please see my latest comments at http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/.
We are closing this thread and continuing it at “Fakes in the Haitian art market – part 2.” Thanks for all the great input, we look forward to you continuing this discussion.

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-964 Betsy O. Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:22:49 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-964 Paul... You're missing the point. It's the SOURCE of the painting, not the PRICE of the painting. Many (not all) sellers on ebay are crooks. Paul…
You’re missing the point. It’s the SOURCE of the painting, not the PRICE of the painting. Many (not all) sellers on ebay are crooks.

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-963 Paul Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:59:06 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-963 John Gault is a character in the novel 'Atlas Shrugged', by Ayn Rand. In a recent auction that featured paintings from the Jonathan Demme collection, a large Andre Pierre went for $1300, well below market value - fake or bargain? Obviously a low, low asking price should ring the alarm bells, but if the guy selling cheap Bresil and Pierre on eBay was asking thousands rather than hundreds, would the bells still ring? If you take the price element out of the equation, just how do you spot a 'good' fake? Any chance of a 'Tutorial' page appearing on this site (or maybe on the Haitian Art Society site) showing examples of known fakes, or signs to look for? Maybe give a voice to those living artists who are seeing their own works being forged. John Gault is a character in the novel ‘Atlas Shrugged’, by Ayn Rand. In a recent auction that featured paintings from the Jonathan Demme collection, a large Andre Pierre went for $1300, well below market value – fake or bargain? Obviously a low, low asking price should ring the alarm bells, but if the guy selling cheap Bresil and Pierre on eBay was asking thousands rather than hundreds, would the bells still ring? If you take the price element out of the equation, just how do you spot a ‘good’ fake? Any chance of a ‘Tutorial’ page appearing on this site (or maybe on the Haitian Art Society site) showing examples of known fakes, or signs to look for? Maybe give a voice to those living artists who are seeing their own works being forged.

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-961 Jim S. Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:22:02 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-961 I don't know who John Gault is, but I sure know a fake Andre Pierre when I see one. I don’t know who John Gault is, but I sure know a fake Andre Pierre when I see one.

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-959 k.j. Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:40:10 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-959 As much as I appreciate this discussion, it has become clear that the wheels continue to spin. Hence, the real question to be answered is: Who is Lionel St. Eloi? Therein is the answer to Haitian art. Not dissimilar from John Gault? As much as I appreciate this discussion, it has become clear that the wheels continue to spin. Hence, the real question to be answered is: Who is Lionel St. Eloi? Therein is the answer to Haitian art. Not dissimilar from John Gault?

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-957 R.B. Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:38:52 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-957 Defending someone who sells an Andre Pierre for $300...that's a joke! Defending someone who sells an Andre Pierre for $300…that’s a joke!

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Melissa R. Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:18:56 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-956 Ebay buyer, I am a collector of FINE Haitian art. Legitimate 18x22 Andre Pierre paintings go for $2500 and up. When someone sells one for $300, do you think it is a legitimate painting? Cmon, think! Ebay buyer, I am a collector of FINE Haitian art. Legitimate 18×22 Andre Pierre paintings go for $2500 and up. When someone sells one for $300, do you think it is a legitimate painting? Cmon, think!

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-951 ebay buyer Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:18:27 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-951 i'd like to see this seller comment on this.. he is haitian.. a teacher.. a painter.. and sells haitian art.. while i am sure there are tons of fakes out there.. id be surprised he is one of the people selling them i’d like to see this seller comment on this.. he is haitian.. a teacher.. a painter.. and sells haitian art.. while i am sure there are tons of fakes out there.. id be surprised he is one of the people selling them

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-950 A former Ebay buyer Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:28:06 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-950 Ebay number 150184837287...this seller has NO conscience... an Andre Pierre 18x22 for $300. He probably paid $25 on the streets of Haiti. Another fake. Sad for Haiti and Haitian art. Ebay number 150184837287…this seller has NO conscience… an Andre Pierre 18×22 for $300. He probably paid $25 on the streets of Haiti. Another fake. Sad for Haiti and Haitian art.

]]> http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/comment-page-1/#comment-938 Laurie C Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:16:26 +0000 http://www.medalia.net/haitiblog/2007/08/fakes-in-the-haitian-art-market/#comment-938 Mary S, I second your statement. Been buying from Medalia for 6 or 7 years...why bother trying to figure out if an ebay seller is a crook or not. Mary S, I second your statement. Been buying from Medalia for 6 or 7 years…why bother trying to figure out if an ebay seller is a crook or not.

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